tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post1355287437718681394..comments2024-03-20T09:48:07.071+01:00Comments on Google Europe Blog: Data collected by Google carsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-11734731893804561362014-06-08T14:30:30.672+02:002014-06-08T14:30:30.672+02:00Well i read most of this well what i have to say i...Well i read most of this well what i have to say is they are going to do it anyway and even if there is law against it well they have plenty of lawyers that can get around them. <a href="http://www.houstondirectauto.com/" rel="nofollow">affordable used car dealers in houston</a><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07891192897822636391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-48974090051758341532014-05-08T15:46:32.632+02:002014-05-08T15:46:32.632+02:00Very interesting article. Love your view. Thank yo...Very interesting article. Love your view. Thank you and go on blogging. <a href="http://www.girlsandgentlemen.co.uk" rel="nofollow">GNG Team</a>luxurywatchesloverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10719163812432550700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-27424675031273688792011-09-23T00:08:17.056+02:002011-09-23T00:08:17.056+02:00wow i didn't know that Google cars collect so ...wow i didn't know that Google cars collect so much data, this is very interesting and I wonder how the data is usedLinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14957220314652369579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-68962201663271388332011-07-08T00:42:12.180+02:002011-07-08T00:42:12.180+02:00I have a problem with this. I'm using a mi-fi ...I have a problem with this. I'm using a mi-fi (a 3G modem coupled with a wifi access point), and apparently crossed one of those google cars when riding in town, about 10 kilometers away from home. Now, whenever i'm using my mifi device and it is the only wifi network in sight for my iPod, the google maps application considers i am where the google car actually detected my mifi... So if i'm 100km away from that spot and have no wifi AP in sight, the maps application "moves me" 100km away. I'd like to have a publicly available form where i could ask google to actually blacklist my mifi's MAC address... Is there such thing?ThaNerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18390510152679698558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-68659163684830437362010-11-30T05:34:55.500+01:002010-11-30T05:34:55.500+01:00This is extremely stupid discussion talking about ...This is extremely stupid discussion talking about collecting ESSID which is available to anyone passing by,as long as google doesn't collect any payload data it is absloutely legal and they are doing a great service to you for free.So imho we should respect that and yes there is no privacy....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-26977180379438870582010-09-13T11:20:01.168+02:002010-09-13T11:20:01.168+02:00Well i read most of this well what i have to say i...Well i read most of this well what i have to say is they are going to do it anyway and even if there is law against it well they have plenty of lawyers that can get around them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-27079899190231578872010-06-01T18:53:07.024+02:002010-06-01T18:53:07.024+02:00@noor iddeen:
well, usually mail hosters provide ...@noor iddeen:<br /><br />well, usually mail hosters provide terms of service for their customers, and they respect privacy laws...<br /><br />The problem is not about collecting private data, but collecting them without authorization and/or safeguards.bboissinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01260529009122462249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-82715713946527066722010-06-01T15:50:24.882+02:002010-06-01T15:50:24.882+02:00If you guys are really so much worried about your ...If you guys are really so much worried about your privacy, you should stop using emails from any provider, as they all have access to your emails that have been sent or received, and therefore they collect private data.........I'm so much with google, they are brining our world many cool technologies, mostly for free.Nio7https://www.blogger.com/profile/09645541799110726153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-9069635790192465602010-05-15T22:02:39.942+02:002010-05-15T22:02:39.942+02:00Oops. "Huh, where do these gigabytes of priva...Oops. "Huh, where do these gigabytes of private emails come from?"<br />Yeah. I once stole a car, spied my neighbors, murdered a stranger - but I didn't notice! Shit happens, nevermind, it was only by accident...<br /><br />The fact that you have methods implemented in your code that spies on wifi-connections speaks for itself...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-13225686171598888082010-05-15T19:31:46.636+02:002010-05-15T19:31:46.636+02:00Enough with Google. The payload thing IMHO is a se...Enough with Google. The payload thing IMHO is a serious privacy violation and I hope the EU will take legal actions against Google for this. "Do no evil", riight.<br />Google -once a respected company driving innovation and providing a revolutionary search- has dropped to zero on my list. <br />Google, you're evil. I hate you more than Apple now.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975481909550661647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-77968190631823259022010-05-15T18:32:48.675+02:002010-05-15T18:32:48.675+02:00Hey!
Would all of you please stop arguing and dis...Hey!<br /><br />Would all of you please stop arguing and discussing these issues!?<br /><br />It is really time to get the new StreetView features online and running!<br /><br />I'm tired of just reading about it and never being able to use it!<br /><br />Cheers017renegadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09735350631284302664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-91543611689578284502010-05-15T08:34:11.324+02:002010-05-15T08:34:11.324+02:00I'm not sure what the issue is here... While t...I'm not sure what the issue is here... While there is a difference between private data and public data. And a difference between data collection and observation, what Google have done is not particularly bad. If you put personally identifying information in a publicly broad-casted SSID, then that information is free for anyone to use. <br /><br />You can't stop people from using your email address, or.. you know what, i'm not sure what you can do with just a last name... <br /><br />Anyway, the point is that people knowing your email address and abusing that fact is the same as the issue of somebody ordering pizza to your house because they know your address. In fact its less of an issue because you can easily hide and change your email address, you can't hide where you live...Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10992463608355869210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-18220147448975659962010-05-15T08:24:18.787+02:002010-05-15T08:24:18.787+02:00I agree the payload data may be too much. Imagine ...I agree the payload data may be too much. Imagine Google also wiretapping your phone conversations while taking images for <a rel="nofollow">Google HomeView</a>.<br /><br />But otherwise this is a great free service for any potential homebuyers.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18145066845774156359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-66095227658912486112010-05-04T10:59:28.817+02:002010-05-04T10:59:28.817+02:00@bboissin thanks for answering correctly
@J.delano...@bboissin thanks for answering correctly<br />@J.delanoy if google would have cared to announce in advance what they are planning to do - yes, i would have done so... now that they announce it when they finished already it seems a little late for that :(mandavihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12725967678073514714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-41997168625126761322010-05-03T11:11:55.493+02:002010-05-03T11:11:55.493+02:00@steeleweed
So you don't see the difference b...@steeleweed<br /><br />So you don't see the difference between walking somewhere, and posting a public comment on a global media?<br /><br />And yes, personality rights in Europe protects people differently than in the US, and they are not likely too change...bboissinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01260529009122462249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-47685552485638290272010-05-03T10:07:39.105+02:002010-05-03T10:07:39.105+02:00@ Peter Fleischer
Please don't use the abbrev...@ Peter Fleischer<br /><br />Please don't use the abbreviation DPA for the german Datenschutzbeauftragten (data protection authorities). In Germany the three letters DPA stand for Deutsche Presse-Agentur (German News Agency). The usage of DPA for the "Datenschutzbeauftragten" might be confusingStevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466215711499708160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-1562858654998131992010-05-02T16:45:58.243+02:002010-05-02T16:45:58.243+02:00I am shocked (but not surprised) at the irrational...I am shocked (but not surprised) at the irrational mental processes by which people conclude that public data is somehow private. Should I sue everybody in NYC for seeing me as I walk down the street? For hearing me as I speak? In fact, if all of you reading this will be so kind as to identify yourselves, you can expect a letter from my lawyer.steeleweedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02077739629921574784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-49479262109734462592010-05-02T16:25:32.136+02:002010-05-02T16:25:32.136+02:00@christian [April 28, 2010 9:38 AM]:
I believe Go...@christian [April 28, 2010 9:38 AM]:<br /><br />I believe Google collects SSIDs for the same reason redundancies are generally used in digital technology: error correction.<br /><br />The WiFi topology is in constant change: people move in and out, buy new routers, and change their SSIDs. You need some redundancy to offset that.<br /><br />For example, if you bought a new router, you'd get a new MAC address. But, if you already have a couple of computers with set up WiFi connectivity, you'd probably give your new router the same SSID the old one had, right? That's why SSID might be interesting for Google...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16693514225779626656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-39316442016406020852010-04-30T17:12:58.462+02:002010-04-30T17:12:58.462+02:00Well i read most of this well what i have to say i...Well i read most of this well what i have to say is they are going to do it anyway and even if there is law against it well they have plenty of lawyers that can get around them.ZELDENhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10525555054726897895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-34599887791344744042010-04-30T10:02:29.222+02:002010-04-30T10:02:29.222+02:00@D. Reed Hall
And that is were the european versi...@D. Reed Hall<br /><br />And that is were the european version of public and privacy really conflict. Even if something is public, even if you can take a picture of me, you don't have to right to publish it.<br /><br />And if instead of just taking a picture, it's thousand of picture, with a lot of people, then you're building a digital file with personally identifying data, and that's even more protected and you'll have to ask for permission from a data privacy authority (e.g. CNIL in France).bboissinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01260529009122462249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-33075593992463705662010-04-30T08:50:31.820+02:002010-04-30T08:50:31.820+02:00As I read these comments, I am stunned by people&#...As I read these comments, I am stunned by people's ignorance of the word "public". If you are in a "public" place, I have the right to photograph you. If you are in a public place, I have the right to record what you say and do. The airwaves are public property. It has long been understood that cell phone conversations captured by devices available at Radio Shack are permissible. So what is the problem with Google paying their employees or third party employees to collect MAC addresses over "public" airwaves? If confidentiality is required, their are ways to encrypt data. But, for most of us, we are content to broadcast our cell phone conversations and our computer data over the "public" airwaves. And, if a company, any company, wants to pay people to go around and collect the data floating in the public airwaves, then they have the right to do so. <br />David Hall<br />A civil libertarian who understands the use of the word "public".D. Reed Hallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733244358081006089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-9345876165260896732010-04-29T23:31:58.768+02:002010-04-29T23:31:58.768+02:00Oh Noeth!
I hath learned that one italian by the ...Oh Noeth!<br /><br />I hath learned that one italian by the name of Marco Polo is sailing his ship around the world, visiting foreign lands, and mapping out the shores.<br /><br />Some of those shores are OURS. People, rise against the tyranny of gathering information for personal gain, sharing among interested parties, and the abdication of our privacy to keep our shorelines obscure!<br /><br />And lo, if it is not far more evil! If we put a big sign at our port with the name of the port, and advertising the availability of some form of service in it's sweet, safe harbours, this Marco Polo, cartographer from Hades, will take a note of that name and offering, and include it in his ships logs!! The collection of such private data is a sin before our lord. Consider our knickers to be in a painful twist!<br /><br />Some unwise people, in the messages above, have even put private data on these ocean-facing signs. But they only intended those for their own consumption - how could they have expected someone else's ship to sail by the coast, and invade the sanctity of that most private information which they had broadcast out to sea?<br /><br />Written in the year of our lord, 2010.<br /><br />PS: Google, please stop re-enforcing the mistake that "triangulation" is at all at play here. There are no angles used in the position calculations. It is "Tri-lateration", where relative distances are used.Derek Kerton, The Kerton Grouphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01698731998444617725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-47576881733804355222010-04-29T20:57:08.585+02:002010-04-29T20:57:08.585+02:00And if you care that anyone walking by can see you...And if you care that anyone walking by can see your email address, just create a new Gmail account and set it to forward all mail to your real account, then put the new gmail address as your SSID. <br /><br />Gmail's spam filter will nuke anyone who tries to take advantage of your address, and your real email address will remain hidden. I use this strategy all the time when I have a reason to publicly post my email address somewhere.J.delanoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13354686674680894743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-66066278497731446842010-04-29T18:30:10.419+02:002010-04-29T18:30:10.419+02:00@jcollar
you might want people to be able to mail...@jcollar<br /><br />you might want people to be able to mail you, and ask you for the key (and to this end you can put your mail in your ESSID).bboissinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01260529009122462249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37103925967026575.post-9367746628762439952010-04-29T17:58:48.002+02:002010-04-29T17:58:48.002+02:00@mandavi
Sharing your connection is no reason to ...@mandavi<br /><br />Sharing your connection is no reason to use your e-mail address as your SSID. Do you mean your WEP or WPA key? Those keys cannot be collected by a scan.<br /><br />Any company has a right to take any data which you freely publicize. Is the postal service not allowed to know your house number even though it is posted on the front of your home?jcollarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13158888513125589015noreply@blogger.com